New computer LF advice

[Dar]

<LI class=clickable onclick="topart('CAS')">CASE: ($20 off Mail-in Rebate) Sigma Gaming Windstorm Mid-Tower 420W Case (Blue Color with Side-Window) <LI class=clickable onclick="topart('CASUPGRADE')">Neon Light Upgrade: NONE <LI class=clickable onclick="topart('CS_FAN')">Extra Case Fan Upgrade: Extra Case Cooling Fan (3 x Fans) <LI class=clickable onclick="topart('POWERSUPPLY')">POWER SUPPLY Upgrade: 1, 000 Watts Power Supplies (Xion SuperNova XON-1000R14HE Power Supply) <LI class=clickable onclick="topart('CPU')">CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-940 2.93 GHz 8M L3 Cache LGA1366 <LI class=clickable onclick="topart('FAN')">COOLING FAN : CoolerMaster V8 Gaming CPU Cooling Fan (Extreme Silent Operation at only 22dBA + Overclock Proof) <LI class=clickable onclick="topart('MOTHERBOARD')">MOTHERBOARD: (3-Way SLI Support) Asus P6T Intel X58 Chipset SLI/CrossFireX Mainboard Triple-Channel DDR3/1600 SATA RAID w/ eSATA, GbLAN, USB2.0, IEEE1394a, & 7.1Audio <LI class=clickable onclick="topart('MEMORY')">MEMORY: 6GB (2GBx3) PC1333 DDR3 PC3 10666 Triple Channel Memory (Corsair or Major Brand) <LI class=clickable onclick="topart('FREEBIE_RM')">FREEBIES: None <LI class=clickable onclick="topart('VIDEO')">VIDEO CARD: NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT 1GB 16X PCI Express (EVGA Powered by NVIDIA) <LI class=clickable onclick="topart('VIDEO2')">VIDEO CARD 2: NONE <LI class=clickable onclick="topart('VIDEO3')">VIDEO CARD 3: NONE <LI class=clickable onclick="topart('MULTIVIEW')">MULTIPLE VIDEO CARD SETTINGS: Xtreme Performance in SLI/CrossFireX Gaming Mode Supports Single Monitor <LI class=clickable onclick="topart('MONITOR')">LCD Monitor: NONE <LI class=clickable onclick="topart('MONITOR2')">2nd Monitor: NONE <LI class=clickable onclick="topart('HDD')">HARD DRIVE: Single Hard Drive (74GB Gaming Western Digital Raptor 10, 000RPM SATA150 16MB Cache WD740ADFD) <LI class=clickable onclick="topart('HDD2')">Data Hard Drive: 500GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM Hard Drive <LI class=clickable onclick="topart('USBHD')">USB PORTABLE DRIVE: NONE <LI class=clickable onclick="topart('CD')">Optical Drive: (Special Price) LG 20X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW DRIVE DUAL LAYER (BLACK COLOR) <LI class=clickable onclick="topart('CD2')">Optical Drive 2: NONE <LI class=clickable onclick="topart('SOUND')">SOUND: Creative Labs SB Audigy SE <LI class=clickable onclick="topart('SPEAKERS')">SPEAKERS: NONE <LI class=clickable onclick="topart('NETWORK')">NETWORK: ONBOARD 10/100 NETWORK CARD <LI class=clickable onclick="topart('MODEM')">MODEM: NONE <LI class=clickable onclick="topart('KEYBOARD')">KEYBOARD: Logitech Deluxe 250 USB Keyboard (Black Color) <LI class=clickable onclick="topart('MOUSE')">MOUSE: XtremeGear Optical USB 3 Buttons Gaming Mouse <LI class=clickable onclick="topart('TEMP')">Extra Thermal Display : NONE <LI class=clickable onclick="topart('WNC')">Wireless 802.11B/G Network Card: NONE <LI class=clickable onclick="topart('FLASHMEDIA')">Flash Media Reader/Writer: None <LI class=clickable onclick="topart('PRO_WIRING')">Cable Wiring: Professional Wiring for All WIRINGs Inside The System Chasis with High Performance Thermal Compound on CPU <LI class=clickable onclick="topart('CABLE')">Rounded Cable: Round Cable Upgrade for Optical Drive <LI class=clickable onclick="topart('VIDEOCAMERA')">VIDEO CAMERA: NONE <LI class=clickable onclick="topart('PRINTER')">PRINTER: None <LI class=clickable onclick="topart('PRINTER_CABLE')">PRINTER CABLE: None <LI class=clickable onclick="topart('IEEE_CARD')">IEEE CARD: NONE <LI class=clickable onclick="topart('USB')">USB PORT: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports <LI class=clickable onclick="topart('FLOPPY')">FLOPPY: NONE <LI class=clickable onclick="topart('OS')">OS: Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Home Basic w/ Service Pack 1 (64-bit Edition) <LI class=clickable onclick="topart('FREEBIE_OS')">FREEBIES: None <LI class=clickable onclick="topart('TVRC')">Media Center Remote Control & TV Tuner: None <LI class=clickable onclick="topart('SERVICE')">SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
RUSH SERVICE: NO; READY TO SHIP IN 5~10 BUSINESS DAYS


From www.cyberpowerpc.com (http://www.cyberpowerpc.com). Anyone see any problems with it?

[Morning]

Advice: Don't do business with Cyberpower

[Dar]

CASE: ($20 off Mail-in Rebate) Sigma Gaming Windstorm Mid-Tower 420W Case (Blue Color with Side-Window)Neon Light

Upgrade: NONE

Extra Case Fan Upgrade: Extra Case Cooling Fan (3 x Fans)

POWER SUPPLY Upgrade: 1, 000 Watts Power Supplies (Xion SuperNova XON-1000R14HE Power Supply)

CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-940 2.93 GHz 8M L3 Cache LGA1366

COOLING FAN : CoolerMaster V8 Gaming CPU Cooling Fan (Extreme Silent Operation at only 22dBA + Overclock Proof)

MOTHERBOARD: (3-Way SLI Support) Asus P6T Intel X58 Chipset SLI/CrossFireX Mainboard Triple-Channel DDR3/1600 SATA RAID w/ eSATA, GbLAN, USB2.0, IEEE1394a, & 7.1Audio

MEMORY: 6GB (2GBx3) PC1333 DDR3 PC3 10666 Triple Channel Memory (Corsair or Major Brand)

FREEBIES: None

VIDEO CARD: NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT 1GB 16X PCI Express (EVGA Powered by NVIDIA)

VIDEO CARD 2: NONEVIDEO CARD 3: NONEMULTIPLE VIDEO CARD SETTINGS: Xtreme Performance in SLI/CrossFireX Gaming Mode Supports Single MonitorLCD

Monitor: NONE

2nd Monitor: NONE

HARD DRIVE: Single Hard Drive (74GB Gaming Western Digital Raptor 10, 000RPM SATA150 16MB Cache WD740ADFD)

Data Hard Drive: 500GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM Hard Drive

USB PORTABLE DRIVE: NONE

Optical Drive: (Special Price) LG 20X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW DRIVE DUAL LAYER (BLACK COLOR)Optical Drive 2: NONE

SOUND: Creative Labs SB Audigy SE

SPEAKERS: NONENETWORK: ONBOARD 10/100 NETWORK CARD

MODEM: NONE

KEYBOARD: Logitech Deluxe 250 USB Keyboard (Black Color)

MOUSE: XtremeGear Optical USB 3 Buttons Gaming Mouse

Extra Thermal Display : NONE

Wireless 802.11B/G Network Card: NONE

Flash Media Reader/Writer: None

Cable Wiring: Professional Wiring for All WIRINGs Inside The System Chasis with High Performance Thermal Compound on CPU

Rounded Cable: Round Cable

Upgrade for Optical Drive

VIDEO CAMERA: NONE

PRINTER: None
PRINTER CABLE: None
IEEE CARD: NONE
USB PORT: Built-in USB 2.0 PortsFLOPPY: NONE
OS: Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Home Basic w/ Service Pack 1 (64-bit Edition)

FREEBIES: None
Media Center Remote Control & TV Tuner: None
SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT

RUSH SERVICE: NO; READY TO SHIP IN 5~10 BUSINESS DAYS

Anyone see any glaring problems with this setup from www.cyberpowerpc.com?

[Dar]

why not?

[Morning]

Quite a few people on here have had horrible experiences with them. Google them - I'm sure you'll find lots of bad things.

[Dar]

Ok then how about this:

Antec 1200 case $180 ( I may go with the 900 series for $110)

Intel Core i7 920 (2.66 mhz) $400

1000 W Power Supply $230

DX58SL Motherboard $300

4 Gigs of DDR3 RAM $200

500 Gig HD $70

Reusing my old optical drive

Geforce 900 GT 1 GB approx. $200

Vista Home Premium 64 bit $120

For a total price including labor of $1850. If I reuse my old HD it's $70 less, and my old PSU would knock off about $200-$230.

I know that putting it together yourself is cheaper but I am not quite at the skill level to do that just yet.




That is the high end of my budget so it works out.

I'm planning on reusing my current optical drive, wireless network card (I bought a nice aftermarket card) and monitor, keyboard, speakers etc.

Few questions for the tech guru's:

1) I can knock of a few bucks by going with an 800 watt PSU, or I can use the PSU from my current machine (it's aftermarket and not too old). I think my current PSU is 650 or 750 Watts. Which PSU would be the best choice?

2) My current Hard Drive is 500 GB but is two years old. Im not sure how much of a cache it has, I beleive it's 7200 rpm's. I could save $70 by recycling the old one, is that a wise choice?

3) This is with onboard sound, should I get a sound card for the computer?

4) I was considering a WD Raptor 74 GB 10,000 rpm Hard Drive. Would that be beneficial as I would have to find other ways to bring the price down?

[Dar]

5) Should I purchase any extra case or CPU cooling?

[Walterus]

Your power supply is probably way high. I'm going for a new PC that is a little bit more than what you do (mirroring C and D drive, more fans etc. And I go for a 750W PS. I think it should be more than enough.

[ThaMan]

I'm not sure what this infatuation is with large power supplies. It's just a total waste of money. Use what you need, plus 10% for upgrades. I can't think of one system that you could EVER put together that would need more than 750 watts.

[Solostaran]

I'm not sure what this infatuation is with large power supplies. It's just a total waste of money. Use what you need, plus 10% for upgrades. I can't think of one system that you could EVER put together that would need more than 750 watts.

Da troof.

[Dar]

Thank you for the replys. I checked and my current PSU is 550 Watts and not too old. Should that be enough or should I go for the 750 - 800 Watt and call it done?

[Walterus]

Thank you for the replys. I checked and my current PSU is 550 Watts and not too old. Should that be enough or should I go for the 750 - 800 Watt and call it done?

I think you should go for the 750W. Better a little to much than to little.

[Deviq]

$1850 seems like a bit too much for what your buying so I went to newegg and priced comparable parts and also to ibuypower.com to price out a complete system. I've never used ibuypower.com since I build my own but I've heard they were decent.

ibuypower's system came out to $1350 with 6GB of ram, 750GB HDD, but everything else was pretty comparable. Here's the list:

Item Unit Price Total Price
Gamer Paladin F725 $1,350.00

Case ( [$15 OFF Mail-In Rebate] Nzxt Apollo Gaming Tower Case w/420W Power Supply Black )

Power Supply ( 750 Watt -- [$40 OFF Mail-In Rebate] Thermaltake Toughpower W0117RU Power Supply Quad SLI Ready )

Processor ( [New !!] Intel Core i7 Processor 920 (4x 2.66GHz/8MB L3 Cache) )

Processor Cooling ( [$10 OFF Mail-In Rebate] [=== Silent ===] Thermaltake V1 CPU Cooling Fan System Kit Silent & Overclocking Proof = Maximum cooling efficiency for quietness and performance )

Motherboard ( Asus P6T Intel X58 Chipset CrossFire and SLI Supported w/7.1 Sound, Triple-Channel DDR3, Gb LAN, S-ATA Raid, USB 2.0, 3-Way SLI PCI-E MB 3-Way SLI )

Memory ( 6 GB [2 GB X3] DDR3-1333 Triple Memory Module Corsair XMS3 Dominator w/DHX technology )

Video Card ( NVIDIA GeForce 9800GT 512MB w/DVI + TV Out Video )
Video Card Brand ( === High Performance === eVGA Brand Video Card Powered by NVIDIA )

Hard Drive ( 750 GB HARD DRIVE [Serial-ATA-II, 3Gb, 7200 RPM, 16M Cache] )

CD-RW/DVD-RW Drive ( [** Special !!! ***] LG 20X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive Black )

Sound Card ( Creative Lab Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer )

Keyboard ( iBUYPOWER USB Keyboard with 18 Internet Hot /Multimedia Keys Black )

Mouse ( iBUYPOWER 1600 dpi High Sensitivity Internet Mouse Black )
USB 2.0 Accessories ( Built-in USB 2.0 Ports )

Operation System ( Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium + [Free 60-Day !!!] Microsoft Office 2007(Word, Excel, Outlook, PowerPoint, Access ....) 64-Bit )

External Wireless Network Adapter ( [Special !!!] Wireless 802.11g 54Mbps PCI Adapter )

Warranty ( Warranty Service Standard 3-Year Limited Warranty + Lifetime Technical Support )

No Rush, Ship Out in 5~10 Business Days )

Sub Total: $1,350.00



I know you don't want to build your own but just as a reference on what labor is costing you here's a list from Newegg.com:


Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80601920 - Retail
$288.99 $288.99

EVGA 132-BL-E758-A1 LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Model #:132-BL-E758-A1
$299.99 $299.99

Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Model #:Nine Hundred
$139.99 -$40.00 Instant $99.99

PC Power & Cooling Silencer PPCS750QBL 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI NVIDIA SLI Certified (Dual 8800 GTX and below) CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Retail
Model #:PPCS750QBL
$169.99 -$30.00 Instant $139.99

G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9T-6GBNQ - Retail
Model #:F3-12800CL9T-6GBNQ
$129.99 -$25.00 Instant $104.99

Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3750330AS 750GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Model #:ST3750330AS
$79.99 $79.99

EVGA 896-P3-1255-AR GeForce GTX 260 Core 216 896MB 448-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
Model #:896-P3-1255-AR
$239.99 -$10.00 Instant $229.99


Subtotal: $1,243.93


You can see the difference with building your own but if it's something you don't want to tackle on your own or find a friend to help I'd highly recommend shopping around different PC builders. It seems like prices vary alot more than they should.

Hope this helps some and sorry for the lengthy post.

Edit:Forgot to mention that Neweggs list is with a few hundred bucks worth of upgrades and it still came out to $100 cheaper

[ThaMan]

Thank you for the replys. I checked and my current PSU is 550 Watts and not too old. Should that be enough or should I go for the 750 - 800 Watt and call it done?Unless you are going SLI or Crossfire, I'd go with 550 watts.

I'm running a Quad Core AMD, 4870 ATI, 4 Hard Drives, and 6 Gigs of memory on a 550 watt power supply. And it's been on 24/7 for over 1 year without a hitch.

[Demeth]

ibuypower = cyberpower = inexpensive (cheap) machines that if they malfunction you have no chance whatsoever of technical support or repair. I spent months trying to get a response to get mine fixed, zero response from e-mail, internet, telephone, etc.

Avoid, avoid, avoid.

[ThaMan]

ibuypower = cyberpower = inexpensive (cheap) machines that if they malfunction you have no chance whatsoever of technical support or repair. I spent months trying to get a response to get mine fixed, zero response from e-mail, internet, telephone, etc.

Avoid, avoid, avoid.
I've heard a lot of this about them.

[Dar]

Well this is ibuypower but... Weekly Gamer Special $1,649.00 $1,649.00 Case ( Coolermaster HAF 932 Full-Tower Gaming Case w/420W Power Supply Black ) Case Lighting ( None ) Power Supply ( 800 Watt -- Power Supply Quad SLI Ready ) Processor ( [New !!] Intel Core i7 Processor 940 (4x 2.93GHz/8MB L3 Cache) ) Processor Cooling ( iBUYPOWER Napoleon CPU Cooling Fan System Kit ) Motherboard ( Asus P6T Intel X58 Chipset CrossFire and SLI Supported w/7.1 Sound, Triple-Channel DDR3, Gb LAN, S-ATA Raid, USB 2.0, 3-Way SLI PCI-E MB 3-Way SLI ) Memory ( 6 GB [2 GB X3] DDR3-1333 Triple Memory Module Corsair Value or Major Brand ) Video Card ( NVIDIA GeForce 9800GTX+ 1GB w/DVI + TV Out Video ) Video Card Brand ( === High Performance === eVGA Brand Video Card Powered by NVIDIA ) Hard Drive ( 500 GB HARD DRIVE [Serial-ATA-II, 3Gb, 7200 RPM, 16M Cache] ) 2nd Hard Drive ( None ) External Hard Drives [USB 2.0/eSATA] ( None ) CD/DVD Drive ( None ) CD-RW/DVD-RW Drive ( [** Special !!! ***] LG 20X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive Black ) Sound Card ( 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard ) Speaker System ( None ) Network Card ( Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100) ) Floppy Drive ( None ) Monitor ( None ) 2nd Monitor ( None ) USB 2.0 Accessories ( Built-in USB 2.0 Ports ) Meter Display ( None ) Flash Media Reader/Writer ( None ) Operation System ( Microsoft Windows Vista Home Basic + [Free 60-Day !!!] Microsoft Office 2007(Word, Excel, Outlook, PowerPoint, Access ....) 64-Bit ) Case Round Cable ( Professional wiring for all cables inside the system tower ) Case Round Cable ( Tuniq TX-2 High Performance Thermal Compound the best interface between your CPU and the heatsinks by its unique designed molecular size and shape ) USB Flash Drive ( None ) MP3 Player ( None ) Video Camera ( None ) Headset ( None ) Power Protection ( None ) External Wireless Network Adapter ( [Special !!!] Wireless 802.11g 54Mbps PCI Adapter ) Warranty ( Warranty Service Standard 3-Year Limited Warranty + Lifetime Technical Support ) Rush Service ( Rush Service Fee (not shipping fee) No Rush, Ship Out in 5~10 Business Days ) Sub Total: $1,649.00 Current Coupon: None or you entered an invalid coupon.

[Jeane]

My ibuy comp ran for 6 and 1/2 years until I got a virus that I caused on accident

[ThaMan]

Wellthisisibuypowerbut...WeeklyGamerSpecial$1,649. 00$1,649.00Case(CoolermasterHAF932Full-TowerGamingCasew/420WPowerSupplyBlack)CaseLighting(None)PowerSupply (800Watt--PowerSupplyQuadSLIReady)Processor([New!!]IntelCorei7Processor940(4x2.93GHz/8MBL3Cache))ProcessorCooling(iBUYPOWERNapoleonCPUC oolingFanSystemKit)Motherboard(AsusP6TIntelX58Chip setCrossFireandSLISupportedw/7.1Sound,Triple-ChannelDDR3,GbLAN,S-ATARaid,USB2.0,3-WaySLIPCI-EMB3-WaySLI)Memory(6GB[2GBX3]DDR3-1333TripleMemoryModuleCorsairValueorMajorBrand)Vid eoCard(NVIDIAGeForce9800GTX+1GBw/DVI+TVOutVideo)VideoCardBrand(===HighPerformance== =eVGABrandVideoCardPoweredbyNVIDIA)HardDrive(500GB HARDDRIVE[Serial-ATA-II,3Gb,7200RPM,16MCache])2ndHardDrive(None)ExternalHardDrives[USB2.0/eSATA](None)CD/DVDDrive(None)CD-RW/DVD-RWDrive([**Special!!!***]LG20XDualFormat/DoubleLayerDVD±R/±RW+CD-R/RWDriveBlack)SoundCard(3DPremiumSurroundSoundOnboa rd)SpeakerSystem(None)NetworkCard(OnboardLANNetwor k(Gbor10/100))FloppyDrive(None)Monitor(None)2ndMonitor(None )USB2.0Accessories(Built-inUSB2.0Ports)MeterDisplay(None)FlashMediaReader/Writer(None)OperationSystem(MicrosoftWindowsVistaH omeBasic+[Free60-Day!!!]MicrosoftOffice2007(Word,Excel,Outlook,PowerPoint, Access....)64-Bit)CaseRoundCable(Professionalwiringforallcablesi nsidethesystemtower)CaseRoundCable(TuniqTX-2HighPerformanceThermalCompoundthebestinterfacebet weenyourCPUandtheheatsinksbyitsuniquedesignedmolec ularsizeandshape)USBFlashDrive(None)MP3Player(None )VideoCamera(None)Headset(None)PowerProtection(Non e)ExternalWirelessNetworkAdapter([Special!!!]Wireless802.11g54MbpsPCIAdapter)Warranty(WarrantyS erviceStandard3-YearLimitedWarranty+LifetimeTechnicalSupport)RushS ervice(RushServiceFee(notshippingfee)NoRush,ShipOu tin5~10BusinessDays)SubTotal:$1,649.00CurrentCoupo n:Noneoryouenteredaninvalidcoupon.
I figured out the only way it could look any worse, then I did it for ya. :tongue:

[ThaMan]

My ibuy comp ran for 6 and 1/2 years until I got a virus that I caused on accidentJust like Toshiba, only maybe a little worse. If you never have to use tech support, you love them. I'll never buy another Toshiba. Their tech support is THAT bad.

[Dar]

Why, can't I get paragraphs!

Weekly Gamer Special $1,649.00

$1,649.00

Case ( Coolermaster HAF 932 Full-Tower Gaming Case w/420W Power Supply Black )


Case Lighting ( None )


Power Supply ( 800 Watt -- Power Supply Quad SLI Ready )


Processor ( [New !!] Intel Core i7 Processor 940 (4x 2.93GHz/8MB L3 Cache) )


Processor Cooling ( iBUYPOWER Napoleon CPU Cooling Fan System Kit )

Motherboard ( Asus P6T Intel X58 Chipset CrossFire and SLI Supported w/7.1 Sound, Triple-Channel DDR3, Gb LAN, S-ATA Raid, USB 2.0, 3-Way SLI PCI-E MB 3-Way SLI )

Memory ( 6 GB [2 GB X3] DDR3-1333 Triple Memory Module Corsair Value or Major Brand )

Video Card ( NVIDIA GeForce 9800GTX+ 1GB w/DVI + TV Out Video ) Video Card Brand ( === High Performance === eVGA Brand Video Card Powered by NVIDIA )

Hard Drive ( 500 GB HARD DRIVE [Serial-ATA-II, 3Gb, 7200 RPM, 16M Cache] )

2nd Hard Drive ( None )

External Hard Drives [USB 2.0/eSATA] ( None )

CD/DVD Drive ( None ) CD-RW/DVD-RW Drive ( [** Special !!! ***] LG 20X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive Black )

Sound Card ( 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard )

Speaker System ( None ) Network Card ( Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100) )

Floppy Drive ( None )

Monitor ( None )

2nd Monitor ( None )

USB 2.0 Accessories ( Built-in USB 2.0 Ports ) Meter Display ( None )

Flash Media Reader/Writer ( None )


Operation System ( Microsoft Windows Vista Home Basic + [Free 60-Day !!!] Microsoft Office 2007(Word, Excel, Outlook, PowerPoint, Access 64-Bit )


Case Round Cable ( Professional wiring for all cables inside the system tower )

Case Round Cable ( Tuniq TX-2 High Performance Thermal Compound the best interface between your CPU and the heatsinks by its unique designed molecular size and shape )

USB Flash Drive ( None )

MP3 Player ( None )

Video Camera ( None )

Headset ( None ) Power Protection ( None )

External Wireless Network Adapter ( [Special !!!] Wireless 802.11g 54Mbps PCI Adapter )

Warranty ( Warranty Service Standard 3-Year Limited Warranty + Lifetime Technical Support )

Rush Service ( Rush Service Fee (not shipping fee) No Rush, Ship Out in 5~10 Business Days )

Sub Total: $1,649.00
__________________

[Walterus]

You know you can save serious money if you go from i7 - 940 to 920? 940 is about double the price of a 940 and isn't that much better (tey both hav 4.8GT/sec, 920 runs at 2.66GHz and 940 at 2.93GHz).

[Walterus]

I guess Tuniq TX-2 is the paste you use between the heatsink and the CPU. A test in Norway found that with paste you reduced the temp with 10 degree C. But the difference between the different pastes was just over 1 degree C. I don't know about the paste you choose, but the prices can be crazy on some of these pastes.

[Brimstone]

I recently read that you can buy a custom rig - built for you - for the same price or less than you would have spent if you bought all the parts on newegg.com (or wherever). The article discussed the various shipping costs, as well as the price for high-end parts and the OS.

I know many of you hate Dell, but I have nothing but good things to say about them and their support services (foreign or not).

They just introduced a new gaming rig (high end parts) called the STUDIO XPS. It has a hot new case, great components, room for expandability, etc.

The rig starts at 1300.00.

If you arent intimately familiar with building a PC, it can be a major sucky endeavor. I built my own PC a few years ago and it frustrated the crap out of me. I was proud of what I built... but after all was said and done, I could have gotten a better deal and SUPPORT if I had just gone through Dell, or another PC manufacturer.

That's just my advice. The support aspect alone is worth a couple hundred bucks to me.

[Walterus]

I recently read that you can buy a custom rig - built for you - for the same price or less than you would have spent if you bought all the parts on newegg.com (or wherever). The article discussed the various shipping costs, as well as the price for high-end parts and the OS.

I know many of you hate Dell, but I have nothing but good things to say about them and their support services (foreign or not).

They just introduced a new gaming rig (high end parts) called the STUDIO XPS. It has a hot new case, great components, room for expandability, etc.

The rig starts at 1300.00.

If you arent intimately familiar with building a PC, it can be a major sucky endeavor. I built my own PC a few years ago and it frustrated the crap out of me. I was proud of what I built... but after all was said and done, I could have gotten a better deal and SUPPORT if I had just gone through Dell, or another PC manufacturer.

That's just my advice. The support aspect alone is worth a couple hundred bucks to me.

I checked Dell before ordering my own components. Their rig was at about US$ 6,000 (thats inc 25% VAT we have here), while I made one almost identical (some of the components I ordered was better) for under US$ 4,000 (also inc. 25% vat).

I ordinarily go for Dell right away, but this time they were just to greedy.

[Walterus]

Well I wasen't completely honest there. Dell runs with a i7 965 (they cost about US$1500 here). They also run SLI graphic cards Geforce GTX 280 (while I run a single card which in fact is a double card, so as I see it they run 4 of those). And they have the Killer Nic gaming card (network booster). But these 3 things cost only about US$ 1500, so it's still US$ 1500 cheaper to pick stuff and build it yourself (my rigg is closer to US$3500 than 4000).

The one thing I don't get is true warrenty. I have 3 years on all the different things I put into my PC, but not on the complete rigg.

Also, I've never seen a Dell PC where you can overclock and do all that fun. :)

[Dar]

Dell isn't upgradable. One of the major problems with them unfortunately. Also I do better support by looking stuff up myself than from their Indian tech support people.Dell is great if you are never going to open the box but I don't think I'd buy from them again.

[ThaMan]

Exactly why we switched to HP.